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Tuesday, 10 May 2016

Demolition of 139 Victoria Road

From: "Johan Cornelius"

Date: 05 May 2016 at 3:08:23 PM SAST
To: "'Chris Willemse'"
Cc: "'Roelof Delport'" , "'Neil Moir'"

Dear Chris

I trust that my e-mail will find you well.

I was approach to assist with an application to have a building at 139 Victoria Road demolished and the Camps Bay Residents & Ratepayer Association is registered with HWC as the heritage body of the area.  Will you please peruse the attached report and provide me with your association’s comment as soon as possible.

The building appears to have no heritage significance but your comment is essential and it will be appreciated if I can receive at your earliest convenience.

Best regards.

Johan Cornelius


From: John Powell
Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2016 5:16 PM
To: Chris Willemse; Eban Tucker; Neil Gardner; Richard Bendel; Alma Horn; Johan van Papendorp; Gus Millner; Byron Herbert; Michael Smorenburg; Brenda Herbert; Helet Merkling
Hi Chris,

I am in receipt of a copy of the application for permission to demolish the existing residence at 139 Victoria Road, Camps Bay, Cape which was constructed in the late1930s.

This property was previously owned by relatives of mine, all of whom currently live overseas, who, if they presently lived in South Africa would have submitted an identical application to enable them to redevelop this most attractive erf.  Any such a redevelopment within the existing zoning scheme regulations will considerably enhance the built environment in this area of Camps Bay.

I cannot see why this application should be refused and accordingly support it.

Kind regards,

John Powell
Past member CBRRA management committee.


On 2016/05/09 10:09 AM, "CBRRA - Byron Herbert" > wrote:
Hi John

Personally I think this property should not become another concrete mass, and it has significant heritage value, so I do not support its demolition.



From: John Powell
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2016 12:00 AM
To: CBRRA - Byron Herbert; 'Chris Willemse'; 'Eban Tucker'; 'Neil Gardner'; 'Richard Bendel'; 'Alma Horn'; 'Johan van Papendorp'; 'Gus Millner'; 'Michael Smorenburg'; 'Brenda Herbert'; 'Helet Merkling'
Subject: Re: Barley Bay Demolition - 139 Victoria Road

Hi Byron,

The existing residence was owner-built by Kay’s uncle, Tommy Raaff, in the late1930s and designed by an architect bachelor friend who lived in it upstairs for 40 years (as an illegal double dwelling !) until he died.

Thereafter it was the Raaff family residence until a few years ago.

It has absolutely no historical, heritage and definitely no architectural value whatsoever and currently detracts from the surrounding built environment which will be considerably enhanced once it has been replaced hopefully like the Gregs did recently next door.




Begin forwarded message:
From: "CBRRA - Byron Herbert"
Subject: Barley Bay Demolition - 139 Victoria Road (not supported)
Date: 10 May 2016 at 10:23:51 AM SAST
To: Various

Hi John

I totally disagree, and have stated my point that Barley Bay is losing its charm whilst becoming wall to wall concrete. The idea of 50% coverage and a 10m (now 9m) height restriction was to retain the green elements within the suburb, but this has somehow been transformed in Barley Bay into boundary to boundary concrete, which is exactly what Camps Bay doesn’t need.

Anyway, neither you nor I will make the final decision, and as you have a vested interest, even if you where still a member of the CBRRA Manco, you would need to recuse yourself.

Therefore in fairness to due process I suggest you step back and let the new owners deal with the various parties including CBRRA independently, and in that way nobody can accuse you of interfering.

Byron Herbert


Begin forwarded message:
From: "Johan van Papendorp" 
Subject: RE: Barley Bay Demolition - 139 Victoria Road
Date: 10 May 2016 at 10:22:24 AM SAST
To: Various

Hi Chris and All,
I fully agree with John's comments on the heritage value of the house at 139 Victoria Road.
There is clearly no architectural merit that can prevent  the demolition of the house.
Johan van Papendorp


Begin forwarded message:
From: John Powell 
Subject: Re: Barley Bay Demolition - 139 Victoria Road (not supported)
Date: 10 May 2016 at 2:09:50 PM SAST
To: Various

Hi Byron, 

I really do not wish to make a mountain out of a molehill here.  

I find your last two sentences in your today’s email to me completely unacceptable. 

I have no idea who bought the property from my relatives and neither do I know to whom the original purchasers sold on to. I have not met either party.

So to accuse me of having a vested interest and interfering is way off the mark.  

Chris Willemse sent me a completely detailed copy of the application and I responded in the spirit of assisting CBRRA in its response.  No interfering here.

Johan Van Papendorp, the most qualified of all in CBRRA Mancom in this matter, agrees fully with me – so please rather argue with him. 

Please do not address any further letters on this subject to me as I will not be opening them. 

I am more than happy to have nothing more to do with CBRRA if that is its wish. 



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Chris Willemse
Date: Tue, May 17, 2016 at 2:45 PM
To: Johan Cornelius
Cc: Roelof Delport , Neil Moir , David Whitehead , Johan van Papendorp

Hi Johan

Herewith the CBRRA’s letter of no objection for your attention.


Chris Willemse

                                                                                                                        15 MAY 2016

Heritage Western Cape (Heritage Officer)
Department of Cultural Affairs and Sport
3rd Floor, Protea Assurance Building
Square Cape Town 8000
Dear Sir/Madam

The CBRRA has no objection to the demolition of the dwelling house on the abovementioned erven, as per the report submitted by Johan Cornelius Architect & Heritage Consultant


Chris Willemse
Chair CBRRA       cell: 0836536363


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